From CATHYF%EARLHAM.bitnet@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU Tue Apr 30 00:08:45 1991
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1991 01:51 EST
From: CATHYF%EARLHAM.bitnet@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU
Subject: DISARM-L,CENTAM-L
To: harelb@cabot.dartmouth.edu
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TO: Harel "harelb@cabot.dartmouth.edu"
FROM: Cathy Flick "cathyf@earlham.bitnet"
Hi, Harel--
   You asked for addresses for DISARM-L and CENTAM-L. At the end of this
note is some stuff Dorene Cornwell sent me last year about several lists
and how to subscribe.
    DISARM-L is an international "Disarmament Discussion List" which was
pretty wild during the Gulf Massacre (oops, "War"), with the pro-war and
anti-war types getting verbally violent at times. It's a safe way for
people of very different views to debate, and certainly provides insight
into the various military mindsets that we are up against. I sent
summarized reports from ACTIV-L especially on anti-war protests as well
as the real effects of our "smart bombs" regularly to it as part of my
contribution. Postings are sent to "DISARM-L@ALBNYVM1.BITNET". The list
moderator is Don Parsons:
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    CENTAM-L is also an international discussion list focussing on
Central America--postings both in English and Spanish. Now mostly
messages are flying about the earthquake, especially trying to get
information about specific localities for people with relatives there
and information about how to help. So far I've just read the postings,
hoping my general Spanish will improve by osmosis. (As a scientific
translator, my vocabulary isn't too useful in real life.) Postings are
sent to "CENTAM-L@UBVM.BITNET".
    By the way, you wondered why I thought the term "progressive" is a
bit arrogant. As you say, this depends on your experiences with the
term. I've run into too many people who label themselves "progressive"
and seem to think they're SO much better than all those "nonprogressive"
types.
    Well, there are a lot of obnoxious people carrying all sorts of
labels, so this really isn't too good a reason for my dislike of the
term. But the term itself also is a problem for me: What the heck IS
progress, anyway? In some ways the automobile was progress, in other
ways it was a big mistake. Change isn't necessarily for the better. I
generally just don't like labels, since they seem to close out options
and build walls between people.
   HOWEVER, I subscribe to The Progressive, read it, and quote from it
extensively anyway....I'm learning tolerance. Which reminds me of the
time back over ten years ago when I was browsing through the college
library and started reading In These Times. I remember being impressed
by the articles, thinking, "Hey, these people make sense..." and then I
looked on the masthead and saw (HORRORS!) that they called themselves
SOCIALISTS! I quickly put down the contaminated newspaper. It was an
unnerving experience.
    Well, I got over my typical American prejudice against "socialists"
(and have even been CALLED one on occasion), and even don't blink now
when dealing with "communists" and "Marxists". So I'm sure that with
time and patience I will get used to the term "progressive", if that's
what everybody wants.
                  Peace, Cathy Flick
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(general information about various lists, from Dorene Cornwell
"cornwell@iubacs.bitnet", December 1990)

 DISARM-L  about disarmament; including some live ones from the Pentagon
USSR-L news about the USSR , including people in the SU and other
peaceniks
BALT-L news about the Baltic republics:  not everyone there is exactly a
raving progressive, but I like to be there.
ACTIV-L Rich's listHe'll put you on
CENTAM-L  about Central America
CHILE-L  LOTS of material in Enlgish and Spanish about Chile. FUN, but a
LOT of material.

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