From cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Sat May 11 23:16:15 1991 Subject: Re: Usenet vs. AML To: harelb%cabot.dartmouth.edu@uga.cc.uga.edu (Harel Barzilai) Date: Sun, 5 May 91 21:39:33 EDT From: "Ofer Inbar" Cc: ACTIV-L@UMCVMB In-Reply-To: from "Harel Barzilai" at May 5, 91 1:59 am Organization: Brandeis University Computer Science Mailer: Elm [revision: 64.9] Harel writes: > In particular, I'd like to ask ACTIV-Lers (please Cc me by email) if > anyone know -- if someone is dialing/modeming in, not a college/univ. > student, what are the ways in which you can read the UseNet newsgroups > and post? (obviously subscribing to PeaceNet, which gets all(?) the > UseNet groups, would be one way) There are basically two ways to get on the net, and have access to Usenet newsgroups. You either get access through an organization you are affiliated with, or you do it on your own. Examples of the first way include working for a company that is on the net or studying at a university that is on the net. The second way, doing it on your own, is not that hard. Public access Unix systems abound. Some are free, and usually unreliable. Other systems cost some money, but not as much as things like CompuServe and Prodigy. For example, the World at STD, a public access Unix in Brookline, MA, has a 20/20 payment plan that basically amounts to $1/hour. All you need is a computer, and a modem. Some pubnixes allow you to log in via a network if they are not local calls. For example, the World, as well as the WELL (Whole Earth Review's system) in California, let you use CompuServe numbers. You type WELL or WORLD at the Host Name: prompt instead of typing CIS. Other pubnixes are available through Tymnet, or PC pursuit. Here is the official nixpub list from October 1990. I realize it's a bit out of date, but I'm pretty sure most of the systems listed are still around, as I haven't heard of any recent Secret Service raids :-) (You've all read Crime and Puzzlement, right?) Note: I've deleted all the entries for systems that don't provide news. --------------------begin included text nixpub short listing Open Access UNIX (*NIX) Sites [Fee / No Fee] for mapped sites only [ October 7, 1990 ] Systems listed (87) Legend: fee/contribution ($), no fee (-$), hours (24), not (-24) shell (S), USENET news (N), email (M), multiple lines (T) Telebit PEP speed on main number (+P), Telebit on other line[s] (P) Courier 9600 bps on main number (+H), Courier on other line[s] (H) V.32 on main number (+V), V.32 on other line[s] (V) anonymous uucp (A), archive site ONLY - see long form list (@) Dialable thru PC Pursuit (^) Last Contact Date Telephone # Sys-name Location Baud Legend ----- ------------ -------- ----------- ------- --------- 09/90 201-759-8450 tronsbox Belleville NJ 3/12/24/96 24 -$ MN+PST 10/90 206-328-4944 polari Seattle WA 3/12 24 $ MNPST 08/90 209-952-5347 quack Stockton CA 3/12/24/96 24 $ MN+PS 08/90 214-247-2367 ozdaltx Dallas TX 12/24 24 $ NT 06/90 215-348-9727 lgnp1 Doylestown PA 3/12/24/96 24 $ AMN+PS 01/90 216-582-2460 ncoast Cleveland OH 12/24/96 24 $ SNMPT 10/90 219-289-0282 nstar Notre Dame IN 24/96 24 $ AMN+PT 04/90 301-625-0817 wb3ffv Baltimore MD 12/24/96 24 ANPTV 04/90 312-283-0559^ chinet Chicago IL 3/12/24/96 24 $ HNPT 10/89 312-338-0632^ point Chicago IL 3/12/24/96 24 -$ HNPST 09/90 312-714-8568^ gagme Chicago IL 12/24 24 $ MNS 10/90 313-994-6333 m-net Ann Arbor MI 3/12/24 24 -$ MNPST 08/90 401-455-0347 anomaly Esmond RI 3/12/24/96 24 -$ MN+PS 10/89 404-321-5020^ jdyx Atlanta GA 12/24 24 $ MN+PST 05/88 407-380-6228 rtmvax Orlando FL 3/12/24 24 -$ NM 09/89 408-245-7726^ uuwest Sunnyvale CA 3/12/24 24 -$ N 02/90 408-249-0290^ netcom San Jose CA 12/24/96 24 $ MNPST 10/89 408-725-0561^ portal Cupertino CA 3/12/24 24 $ MNT 02/90 408-996-7358^ zorch Cupertino CA 12/24 24 $ MNT 05/90 412-431-8649 eklektik Pittsburgh PA 3/12/24 24 $ MNST 07/90 414-241-5469 mixcom Milwaukee WI 3/12/24 24 $ MNST 08/90 415-294-8591 woodowl Livermore CA 3/12/24/96 24 -$ N 11/89 415-332-6106^ well Sausalito CA 12/24 24 $ MNST 08/89 415-753-5265^ wet San Francisc CA 12/24 24 $ MNPSTV 05/90 415-967-9443^ btr Mountain Vie CA 3/12/24 24 $ HMNPSTV 04/90 416-438-2855 contact Toronto ON 3/12/24 24 -$ MNST 11/89 416-452-0926 telly Brampton ON 12/24/96 24 $ MN+P 12/88 416-461-2608 tmsoft Toronto ON 3/12/24/96 24 $ MNS 07/89 416-654-8854 ziebmef Toronto ON 3/12/24/96 24 MN+PST 10/90 +44-81-863-6646 ibmpcug Harrow, Midd UK 3/12/24/96 24 $ MNPT+V 01/90 502-968-5401 disk Louisville KY 3/12 24 $ MNST 12/88 503-254-0458 bucket Portland OR 3/12/24 24 -$ MNST 12/89 503-297-3211^ m2xenix Portland OR 3/12/24 24 -$ MNS 08/90 503-640-4262^ agora PDX OR 3/12/24 24 $ MNST 10/90 503-644-8135^ techbook Portland OR 12/24 24 $ MNST 10/89 513-779-8209 cinnet Cincinnati OH 12/24/96 24 $ MN+PS 08/90 514-844-9179 tnl Montreal PQ 3/12/24 24 -$ MNS 12/88 518-346-8033 sixhub upstate NY 3/12/24 24 $ NMST 09/88 602-941-2005 xroads Phoenix AZ 3/12/24 24 $ NT 05/90 604-576-1214 mindlink Vancouver BC 3/12/24 24 $ HMNPT 08/89 605-348-2738 loft386 Rapid City SD 3/12/24/96 24 $ MN+PS 08/88 608-273-2657 madnix Madison WI 3/12/24 24 -$ MNS 04/90 612-473-2295^ pnet51 Minneapolis MN 3/12/24 24 -$ NMT 08/90 615-283-0864 kk4fs Johnson City TN 3/12/24 24 -$ MN 04/90 615-288-3957 medsys Kingsport TN 12/24/96 24 -$ AN+P 08/90 615-896-8716 raider Murfreesboro TN 12/24 24 $ MNST 05/90 616-457-1964 wybbs Jenison MI 3/12/24/96 24 -$ MN+PST 01/90 617-739-9753 world Brookline MA 3/12/24/96 24 $ MNPST 01/90 619-259-7757 pnet12 Del Mar CA 3/12/24/96 24 -$ MNPT 07/88 619-444-7006^ pnet01 El Cajon CA 3/12/24 24 $ MNST 08/90 619-483-3890^ telesys San Diego CA 12/24/96 24 -$ AMN+PS 10/90 +644-895-857 actrix New Zealand 3/12/24 24 $ MNS 12/89 703-281-7997^ grebyn Vienna VA 3/12/24 24 $ MNT 11/89 708-272-5912^ igloo Northbrook IL 12/24/96 24 -$ NPST 05/90 708-808-7300^ ddsw1 Mundelein IL 3/12/24/96 24 $ AMNPST 08/90 708-833-8126^ vpnet Villa Park IL 12/24/96 24 -$ MNPST 07/89 713-438-5018 sugar Houston TX 3/12/24/96 24 -$ N+P 10/89 713-668-7176^ nuchat Houston TX 3/12/24/96 24 -$ MN+PS 05/89 714-842-5851 conexch Santa Ana CA 3/12/24 24 $ AMNS 08/88 714-894-2246 stanton Irvine CA 3/12/24 24 $ NS 10/90 717-657-4997 compnect Harrisburg PA 3/12/24/96 24 -$ NT 12/89 719-632-4111 oldcolo Colo Spgs CO 12/24/96 24 $ HMNT 01/90 801-269-0670^ i-core Salt Lake Ci UT 3/12/24/96 24 -$ AN+P 05/90 900-468-7727 uunet Falls Church VA 3/12/24/96 24 $ AMN+PT+V 08/90 906-228-4399 lopez Marquette MI 3/12/24 24 $ MNT 05/90 908-846-2460^ althea New Brunswic NJ 3/12/24 24 -$ MNS 08/90 916-649-0161 sactoh0 Sacramento CA 12/24/96 24 $ MN+PST 08/89 919-493-7111^ wolves Durham NC 3/12/24 24 $ MNS --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: ^ means the site is reachable using PC Pursuit. =========================================================================== The nixpub listings are kept as current as possible. However, you use this data at your own risk and cost -- all standard disclaimers apply!!! Any additions, deletions, or corrections should be sent to nixpub@ls.com. --------------------end of included text -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu -- WBRS (BRiS) -- WBRS@binah.cc.brandeis.edu WBRS@brandeis.bitnet "Good literature is about Love and War." "Junk fiction is about Sex and Violence."